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		<title>By: Shozen</title>
		<link>http://www.elharo.com/blog/finance/2006/08/17/ameritrade-spammers/#comment-131377</link>
		<dc:creator>Shozen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 22:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an employee, with an employee account, I too was getting the same spam.  Funny it never crossed my mind that it was a result of having an  account.  I was even bringing in samples from home to my manager.  Now, as a FORMER, employee, (I left over a year ago.) I can assure people that it's not the lower level grunts who allowed the "code" to slip into their system which allowed the compromise.   The "Big Wigs" of the firm deliberately keep the grunts ignorant of any and all things going on in the firm.  Not too hard of a task considering the turn over rate runs about eighteen months.  "Provide an Excellent Customer Service Experience," what a farce.

The most frustrating part, I left hoping to never cross or interact with them again only to find that I was still being screwed over by those two timing, back stabbing bastards!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an employee, with an employee account, I too was getting the same spam.  Funny it never crossed my mind that it was a result of having an  account.  I was even bringing in samples from home to my manager.  Now, as a FORMER, employee, (I left over a year ago.) I can assure people that it&#8217;s not the lower level grunts who allowed the &#8220;code&#8221; to slip into their system which allowed the compromise.   The &#8220;Big Wigs&#8221; of the firm deliberately keep the grunts ignorant of any and all things going on in the firm.  Not too hard of a task considering the turn over rate runs about eighteen months.  &#8220;Provide an Excellent Customer Service Experience,&#8221; what a farce.</p>
<p>The most frustrating part, I left hoping to never cross or interact with them again only to find that I was still being screwed over by those two timing, back stabbing bastards!</p>
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		<title>By: tc</title>
		<link>http://www.elharo.com/blog/finance/2006/08/17/ameritrade-spammers/#comment-100653</link>
		<dc:creator>tc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>absolute nightmare experience, first they lost my history data during the change over from waterhouse to ameritrade and at the same time I started receiving the same spam everyone else was getting. All the people I dealt with seemed decent enough, except for one wise a__ manager originally from ameritrade (what a jerk). The manager is what triggered me to switch to a semi premium service broker, I do not mind paying more for trades when I know the company I'm dealing with has integrity and my better interest. The overall experience with ameritrade wasn't far from dealing with the carnies at fair that run the games section.
I truly believe ameritrade or (BAIN CAPITAL, the company that owns ameritrade ) is selling peoples personal information in order to pay for these mergers. People from e-trade need to be warned because Bain capital has their sights on them next and your gona see history repeat itself again for what the fourth time now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>absolute nightmare experience, first they lost my history data during the change over from waterhouse to ameritrade and at the same time I started receiving the same spam everyone else was getting. All the people I dealt with seemed decent enough, except for one wise a__ manager originally from ameritrade (what a jerk). The manager is what triggered me to switch to a semi premium service broker, I do not mind paying more for trades when I know the company I&#8217;m dealing with has integrity and my better interest. The overall experience with ameritrade wasn&#8217;t far from dealing with the carnies at fair that run the games section.<br />
I truly believe ameritrade or (BAIN CAPITAL, the company that owns ameritrade ) is selling peoples personal information in order to pay for these mergers. People from e-trade need to be warned because Bain capital has their sights on them next and your gona see history repeat itself again for what the fourth time now.</p>
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		<title>By: Mokka mit Schlag &#187; Dumping Ameritrade</title>
		<link>http://www.elharo.com/blog/finance/2006/08/17/ameritrade-spammers/#comment-94885</link>
		<dc:creator>Mokka mit Schlag &#187; Dumping Ameritrade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 11:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I finally got around to filing the paperwork to officially transfer my account from the TD Ameritrade spammers to Scotttrade. I should have done this months ago when I first realized the problem, but I&#8217;m [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I finally got around to filing the paperwork to officially transfer my account from the TD Ameritrade spammers to Scotttrade. I should have done this months ago when I first realized the problem, but I&#8217;m [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sensei</title>
		<link>http://www.elharo.com/blog/finance/2006/08/17/ameritrade-spammers/#comment-63991</link>
		<dc:creator>Sensei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 00:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A follow up to my previous message.  I have filed a complaint with the Securities and Exchange Commission.  I also sent the info to "60 Minutes" at CBS.  I suggest anyone having this same problem do the same.  Numbers count.  The more complaints each organization receives, the more likely they will investigate.

I have now started receiving the usual tpe of spam in addition to the "Stock tips", so what I believe is happening, is an employee with access to account info is periodically selling the addresses to spammers. Some spammers are willing to pay up to $5 per valid address. Just imagine how much money that person is making by selling account email addresses.

I plan on moving all my assets to another company as soon as I find one that looks like it will meet my criteria.  I suggest everyone do the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A follow up to my previous message.  I have filed a complaint with the Securities and Exchange Commission.  I also sent the info to &#8220;60 Minutes&#8221; at CBS.  I suggest anyone having this same problem do the same.  Numbers count.  The more complaints each organization receives, the more likely they will investigate.</p>
<p>I have now started receiving the usual tpe of spam in addition to the &#8220;Stock tips&#8221;, so what I believe is happening, is an employee with access to account info is periodically selling the addresses to spammers. Some spammers are willing to pay up to $5 per valid address. Just imagine how much money that person is making by selling account email addresses.</p>
<p>I plan on moving all my assets to another company as soon as I find one that looks like it will meet my criteria.  I suggest everyone do the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim5k</title>
		<link>http://www.elharo.com/blog/finance/2006/08/17/ameritrade-spammers/#comment-62311</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim5k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It happened to me too - AGAIN. This is the third time the email address I use ONLY with TD just ended up on a penny stock spam list. Either they are selling them, or they have a serious security problem (most likely an inside job). 

This can NOT be explained by a random email address spammer because I have a catch-all account that would receive ALL variations sent to my domain name. But I do not get random variations. This stock spam specifically targets the address I gave to TD Ameritrade, and only TD Ameritrade. 

Also, the last time I changed my email address, I created three variations (*_TD1*, *_TD2*, and *_TD3*).  I gave one to TD, and the other two were control (i.e. I did not give them to anybody).  And guess what? The one I gave to TD is getting stock spam, and the other two are not. 

I don't know how else you can explain this other than private email addresses are leaking out of TD Ameritrade. And I am furious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It happened to me too - AGAIN. This is the third time the email address I use ONLY with TD just ended up on a penny stock spam list. Either they are selling them, or they have a serious security problem (most likely an inside job). </p>
<p>This can NOT be explained by a random email address spammer because I have a catch-all account that would receive ALL variations sent to my domain name. But I do not get random variations. This stock spam specifically targets the address I gave to TD Ameritrade, and only TD Ameritrade. </p>
<p>Also, the last time I changed my email address, I created three variations (*_TD1*, *_TD2*, and *_TD3*).  I gave one to TD, and the other two were control (i.e. I did not give them to anybody).  And guess what? The one I gave to TD is getting stock spam, and the other two are not. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how else you can explain this other than private email addresses are leaking out of TD Ameritrade. And I am furious.</p>
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		<title>By: Sensei</title>
		<link>http://www.elharo.com/blog/finance/2006/08/17/ameritrade-spammers/#comment-61065</link>
		<dc:creator>Sensei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 00:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone at TDAmeritrade is selling email addresses used for account notifications. The first time it happened to me, I wasn't sure but suspected that was the case.  Both email addresses I had with TDAmeritrade started receiving the "stock tip" spams on the same day.  Since the addresses were also being used for other companies I didn't immediately put two and two together. I changed both email addresses to a dedicated address given only to TDAmeritrade.  Well guess what!

It has been about six months and today I received my first "stock tip" spam message to that special email account. 4/12/2007

One of two things is happening. An employee with access to the email accounts info is selling the addresses to make some extra money *or* TDAmeritrade management is selling the addresses with the intent to trigger foolhardy account holders into making stock trades, thereby increasing TDAmeritrade's profits.

I contacted TDAmeritrade the first time it happened and was given the run around.

I now have the proof needed to show that something strange is happening at TDAmeritrade.  I am going to send copies of all the documentation I accumulated to ABC, NBC, and CBS. Hopefully one of them will run with the story.

If you have similar documentation, do the same.  The more letters and complaints the network news departments receive, the more likely they will investigate. I know. I used to work at NBC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone at TDAmeritrade is selling email addresses used for account notifications. The first time it happened to me, I wasn&#8217;t sure but suspected that was the case.  Both email addresses I had with TDAmeritrade started receiving the &#8220;stock tip&#8221; spams on the same day.  Since the addresses were also being used for other companies I didn&#8217;t immediately put two and two together. I changed both email addresses to a dedicated address given only to TDAmeritrade.  Well guess what!</p>
<p>It has been about six months and today I received my first &#8220;stock tip&#8221; spam message to that special email account. 4/12/2007</p>
<p>One of two things is happening. An employee with access to the email accounts info is selling the addresses to make some extra money *or* TDAmeritrade management is selling the addresses with the intent to trigger foolhardy account holders into making stock trades, thereby increasing TDAmeritrade&#8217;s profits.</p>
<p>I contacted TDAmeritrade the first time it happened and was given the run around.</p>
<p>I now have the proof needed to show that something strange is happening at TDAmeritrade.  I am going to send copies of all the documentation I accumulated to ABC, NBC, and CBS. Hopefully one of them will run with the story.</p>
<p>If you have similar documentation, do the same.  The more letters and complaints the network news departments receive, the more likely they will investigate. I know. I used to work at NBC.</p>
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		<title>By: 4ndr3w</title>
		<link>http://www.elharo.com/blog/finance/2006/08/17/ameritrade-spammers/#comment-33968</link>
		<dc:creator>4ndr3w</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 01:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used a tagged address for Ameritrade as well, and have been recieving penny stock image spams to the tagged address for some time now.

It appears Ameritrade lost a data backup tape of customer information before the TD merger:
http://www.billkatz.com/node/77</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used a tagged address for Ameritrade as well, and have been recieving penny stock image spams to the tagged address for some time now.</p>
<p>It appears Ameritrade lost a data backup tape of customer information before the TD merger:<br />
<a href="http://www.billkatz.com/node/77" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www.billkatz.com');" rel="nofollow">http://www.billkatz.com/node/77</a></p>
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		<title>By: Allie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 00:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have the same problem as well.  I also got a brush-off kind of treatment from Ameritrade.  I get TONS of spam to my Ameritrade address.  I seriously doubt it was ever Ameritrade policy to sell addresses.  I see a few possibilities:

1) A hacker got in and stole email addresses (and who knows what else) from their servers.
2) Someone inside the company sold the addresses without corporate permission.
3) An employee's laptop with customer data got stolen.
4) Ameritrade might have been using 3rd party companies to deal with customer relations for example, and that 3rd party leaked the addresses.
5) Someone was sniffing on the wire somewhere near ameritrade routers and got a ton of addresses via unencrypted email (I somehow doubt this was the problem, otherwise Ameritrade probably would have discontinued unencrypted email transmissions as part of their service, and would have required communications to be conducted via a message center on an encrypted webpage).

I'm surprised this hasn't reached the papers, with all the stuff I see on the web about it.

Allie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the same problem as well.  I also got a brush-off kind of treatment from Ameritrade.  I get TONS of spam to my Ameritrade address.  I seriously doubt it was ever Ameritrade policy to sell addresses.  I see a few possibilities:</p>
<p>1) A hacker got in and stole email addresses (and who knows what else) from their servers.<br />
2) Someone inside the company sold the addresses without corporate permission.<br />
3) An employee&#8217;s laptop with customer data got stolen.<br />
4) Ameritrade might have been using 3rd party companies to deal with customer relations for example, and that 3rd party leaked the addresses.<br />
5) Someone was sniffing on the wire somewhere near ameritrade routers and got a ton of addresses via unencrypted email (I somehow doubt this was the problem, otherwise Ameritrade probably would have discontinued unencrypted email transmissions as part of their service, and would have required communications to be conducted via a message center on an encrypted webpage).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m surprised this hasn&#8217;t reached the papers, with all the stuff I see on the web about it.</p>
<p>Allie</p>
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		<title>By: Jason McElroy</title>
		<link>http://www.elharo.com/blog/finance/2006/08/17/ameritrade-spammers/#comment-24013</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason McElroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed this problem around July, but have been too busy to address it.

As others have noted, I too give custome email addresses to EVERYONE I have an online account with in the form [AcctCompany].[MyDomain].com.

I give offenders one chance to remedy the problem where I receive spam to that address, then promptly close accounts and cease doing business with them if it happens again. If their attitude is particularly shitty, or they don't seem terribly concerned, I close the account on the first incident.

You'd be amazed how many companies truly don't care when you close the account and try to give them the reason. Oh well.

Out of curiousity today, I searched for "Ameritrade spam" and found that it has happened in epidemic proportions.

I definitely don't feel that this is a company I'd like to continue doing business with and will closing my accounts in short order.

Jason</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed this problem around July, but have been too busy to address it.</p>
<p>As others have noted, I too give custome email addresses to EVERYONE I have an online account with in the form [AcctCompany].[MyDomain].com.</p>
<p>I give offenders one chance to remedy the problem where I receive spam to that address, then promptly close accounts and cease doing business with them if it happens again. If their attitude is particularly shitty, or they don&#8217;t seem terribly concerned, I close the account on the first incident.</p>
<p>You&#8217;d be amazed how many companies truly don&#8217;t care when you close the account and try to give them the reason. Oh well.</p>
<p>Out of curiousity today, I searched for &#8220;Ameritrade spam&#8221; and found that it has happened in epidemic proportions.</p>
<p>I definitely don&#8217;t feel that this is a company I&#8217;d like to continue doing business with and will closing my accounts in short order.</p>
<p>Jason</p>
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		<title>By: Ralfe Silc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralfe Silc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 05:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've had the same spam problem since Ameritrade became TD Ameritrade.  I recently changed all my email addresses to different ones and used only ONE specific address for TD Ameritrade.  Have started to get spam already.  It is their fault.  I am going to go to one of their local branch offices (not to far from home) and confront them with this.  I will probably move my account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had the same spam problem since Ameritrade became TD Ameritrade.  I recently changed all my email addresses to different ones and used only ONE specific address for TD Ameritrade.  Have started to get spam already.  It is their fault.  I am going to go to one of their local branch offices (not to far from home) and confront them with this.  I will probably move my account.</p>
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