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	<title>Comments on: More CSS Layout Madness</title>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.elharo.com/blog/software-development/web-development/2005/11/29/more-css-layout-madness/comment-page-1/#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 04:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, really: what&#039;s wrong with tables? (And yes, I am only *half* joking.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, really: what&#8217;s wrong with tables? (And yes, I am only *half* joking.)</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.elharo.com/blog/software-development/web-development/2005/11/29/more-css-layout-madness/comment-page-1/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Elliotte,

&quot;Why couldn’t CSS layouts be based on liquid nested tables like the ones proven to work by years of experience?&quot;

In fact, CSS 2.1 does have its own table model that is independent of HTML tables and could be applied to any markup in your document, like this:

div.page { display: table }
div.content { display: table-row }
...

The resulting tables are entirely defined in the CSS since they are used for layout not semantics, so the markup stays clean enough to keep Lynx users / Google happy.

The one (fairly big) problem with this approach is that Internet Explorer does not support it. We could call this the &quot;Netscape 4 syndrome&quot;: lowest common denominator strikes again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Elliotte,</p>
<p>&#8220;Why couldn’t CSS layouts be based on liquid nested tables like the ones proven to work by years of experience?&#8221;</p>
<p>In fact, CSS 2.1 does have its own table model that is independent of HTML tables and could be applied to any markup in your document, like this:</p>
<p>div.page { display: table }<br />
div.content { display: table-row }<br />
&#8230;</p>
<p>The resulting tables are entirely defined in the CSS since they are used for layout not semantics, so the markup stays clean enough to keep Lynx users / Google happy.</p>
<p>The one (fairly big) problem with this approach is that Internet Explorer does not support it. We could call this the &#8220;Netscape 4 syndrome&#8221;: lowest common denominator strikes again.</p>
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