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	<title>Comments on: Changing Fonts</title>
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		<title>By: lefty</title>
		<link>http://www.elharo.com/blog/software-development/web-development/2006/09/25/changing-fonts/comment-page-1/#comment-14829</link>
		<dc:creator>lefty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 18:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just realized that I never answered your question.  I&#039;m fine with using CSS to specify a couple of unique fonts for a website, absolutely.  I am totally pro-CSS.  But your stylesheet lists seven fonts!  And two of them are pretty much guaranteed to be installed on every computer that can browse the web.  If I don&#039;t want to use those fonts, I&#039;m forced to either uninstall them or set an all-or-nothing preference that will be enforced on every single site I visit, whether I want that or not.

I don&#039;t design sites for a living, but it seems to me like the guideline ought to be that you shouldn&#039;t specify any font unless your site has a real functional need for one, or at most you should specify either &quot;serif&quot; or &quot;sans serif&quot;, and let the user&#039;s settings win out after that. 

(For the record, my browsers at home are set up to use News Gothic as their sans-serf font, at least on websites that allow me the choice.  Is it much different than many of the other sans-serf fonts around?  No, not really.  But that&#039;s not the point.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just realized that I never answered your question.  I&#8217;m fine with using CSS to specify a couple of unique fonts for a website, absolutely.  I am totally pro-CSS.  But your stylesheet lists seven fonts!  And two of them are pretty much guaranteed to be installed on every computer that can browse the web.  If I don&#8217;t want to use those fonts, I&#8217;m forced to either uninstall them or set an all-or-nothing preference that will be enforced on every single site I visit, whether I want that or not.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t design sites for a living, but it seems to me like the guideline ought to be that you shouldn&#8217;t specify any font unless your site has a real functional need for one, or at most you should specify either &#8220;serif&#8221; or &#8220;sans serif&#8221;, and let the user&#8217;s settings win out after that. </p>
<p>(For the record, my browsers at home are set up to use News Gothic as their sans-serf font, at least on websites that allow me the choice.  Is it much different than many of the other sans-serf fonts around?  No, not really.  But that&#8217;s not the point.)</p>
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		<title>By: Elliotte Rusty Harold</title>
		<link>http://www.elharo.com/blog/software-development/web-development/2006/09/25/changing-fonts/comment-page-1/#comment-14066</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliotte Rusty Harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 00:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Au contraire, this is exactly how CSS is supposed to work. The site chooses what it likes, and if you prefer something else you override that choice. User preferences win of course.

I&#039;ve noticed when reading the blogs of some people with better taste than me that their fonts really jump out, and far more legible than what I picked. I&#039;ve also noted the reverse on many occasions. In picking the fonts I&#039;ve used here, I&#039;ve tried to copy the best examples I&#039;ve seen elsewhere.

I&#039;m curious what font you prefer, if it&#039;s not listed in the list anywhere. Maybe a serif font?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Au contraire, this is exactly how CSS is supposed to work. The site chooses what it likes, and if you prefer something else you override that choice. User preferences win of course.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve noticed when reading the blogs of some people with better taste than me that their fonts really jump out, and far more legible than what I picked. I&#8217;ve also noted the reverse on many occasions. In picking the fonts I&#8217;ve used here, I&#8217;ve tried to copy the best examples I&#8217;ve seen elsewhere.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious what font you prefer, if it&#8217;s not listed in the list anywhere. Maybe a serif font?</p>
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		<title>By: lefty</title>
		<link>http://www.elharo.com/blog/software-development/web-development/2006/09/25/changing-fonts/comment-page-1/#comment-14037</link>
		<dc:creator>lefty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are you specifying fonts in your stylesheets at all?  I know what font I&#039;d like to use to read text, and it&#039;s not any of the ones listed in your CSS.  I shouldn&#039;t have to tell Firefox to always override a site&#039;s fonts or uninstall Helvetica and Arial from my machine to have a pleasant web browsing experience.  I&#039;m not saying there&#039;s never a reason to specify a font, but for a site that is basically a long text file (presentation-wise) it seems kind of pointless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are you specifying fonts in your stylesheets at all?  I know what font I&#8217;d like to use to read text, and it&#8217;s not any of the ones listed in your CSS.  I shouldn&#8217;t have to tell Firefox to always override a site&#8217;s fonts or uninstall Helvetica and Arial from my machine to have a pleasant web browsing experience.  I&#8217;m not saying there&#8217;s never a reason to specify a font, but for a site that is basically a long text file (presentation-wise) it seems kind of pointless.</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas Schödl</title>
		<link>http://www.elharo.com/blog/software-development/web-development/2006/09/25/changing-fonts/comment-page-1/#comment-13940</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Schödl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 16:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After installing the Vera fonts, the text looked very washed-out. Employing Windows anti-aliasing in &quot;default&quot; setting was found to be guilty for this. When switching to ClearType things improved for the site, but other stuff on the desktop took on a fuzzy look. Switching anti-aliasing off altogether solved it for my Dell&#039;s notebook screen. 
Fine font, thanks for sharing that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After installing the Vera fonts, the text looked very washed-out. Employing Windows anti-aliasing in &#8220;default&#8221; setting was found to be guilty for this. When switching to ClearType things improved for the site, but other stuff on the desktop took on a fuzzy look. Switching anti-aliasing off altogether solved it for my Dell&#8217;s notebook screen.<br />
Fine font, thanks for sharing that!</p>
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		<title>By: robert</title>
		<link>http://www.elharo.com/blog/software-development/web-development/2006/09/25/changing-fonts/comment-page-1/#comment-13918</link>
		<dc:creator>robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 13:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best, so far, was Constant Willison used by O&#039;Reilly (you&#039;ve heard of them).  When Frank died, so did their use of the font.  I never saw anything that he was the owner of the font.  Perhaps it was all a coincidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best, so far, was Constant Willison used by O&#8217;Reilly (you&#8217;ve heard of them).  When Frank died, so did their use of the font.  I never saw anything that he was the owner of the font.  Perhaps it was all a coincidence.</p>
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